Posts by Beth Sarim

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WTS checklist for Elders to destroy evidence?

by DarioKehl in

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3t1yp7/marc_and_cora_posted_on_utube/.

hot off the presses from exjw reddit earlier today.

massive leak in uk.. if true, this is big (and very, very disturbing)..

Beth Sarim

I know that elders go on all-weekend courses to condition them for situations like these. They are shown videos and demonstrations to control their thoughts when these things like **destroying documents** come up.

They really do feel that they are the blessed-ones and above the Law. Remember the Borg is very cleverly cunning on mind control, even such when it comes to **obeying the Borg** over the Law of the Courts.

Even every JW feels the same way. They believe when that pipe dream of the World Governments shuts down religion, that the preaching work should continue. That is how every JW thinks from a very indoctrinated age, and I just cannot see any Elder being different. Perhaps even MORE SO, indoctrinated!!!

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Liquidation sale of RBC assets

by Darkknight757 in

got this very interesting email last night and i thought i'd share it.. this is from the local rbc.. "in harmony with our new ldc form we have been asked by the branch to liquidate all current assets of used tools and materials once owned by the rbc.

you are invited to visit the equipment trailers to acquire items being liquidated by the rbc asset team, these items will be offered on a first come bases with voluntary donation.

if you see any item you like please be in position to take it with you at that time, after you return to your congregation then you will make a donation of cash or check in the congregation contribution box designated for the support of the worldwide work.

Beth Sarim

So they need so many KHs built, right!! Well how does the sudden cry for KH mortgages forgiven May of 2014 with the congregations sending in all money but $5000.00 justify itself.

RBC fire sale of tools now to LDC, where is all the money going!!! IF they need so many KHs going, they should be on a building frenzy not on a fire sale of tools and moratorium of KH projects.

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WTS checklist for Elders to destroy evidence?

by DarioKehl in

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3t1yp7/marc_and_cora_posted_on_utube/.

hot off the presses from exjw reddit earlier today.

massive leak in uk.. if true, this is big (and very, very disturbing)..

Beth Sarim

Hmm. If this is true, it is very disturbing. Did you know that destroying evidence which is admissible in court is a criminal offense.

If elders are knowingly destroying evidence which is admissible as evidence they are technically committing a criminal offense. They are just as indictable for destroying evidence.

;We all must be ready to obey instructions we may receive whether they seem strategic from a human standpoint or not;

That statement I guess applies to EVERYTHING, even going above the law, to obey instructions that trump the Law of the Courts, the REAL Judicial system. WOW!!!

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2015 Worldwide Memorial Attendance: Another Sign of Decline

by steve2 in

jw memorial attendance last year - 2014 - was about 50,000 shy of 20 million.

some posters on this forum had confidently predicted before the 2014 memorial that attendance would hit more than 20 milion.

they were wrong.. now, in 2015, and the memorial falling on a weekend night (where attendance is historically much higher), attendance has not only failed to top 20 milion but has declined by more than 87,000 in attendance over 2014:.

Beth Sarim

I do believe that 2014 now come and gone, the rising tide of doubter is surfacing. Each year it seems there is an ever increasing number of memorial attendees. I cannot remember seeing a decrease in memorial attendance, ever!!

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"the Kingdom work is expanding at an accelerated pace"

by Londo111 in

if recent intel is true, there is only a .23% increase worldwide in 2015. .

notice what is increasing is not the average publisher count, according to the above watchtower quote to spin the bethel downsizing, but the work.

"the little one will become a thousand and the small one a mighty nation.

Beth Sarim

I know. You keep hearing all the time that the Chariot or the Borg is moving so fast, you just have to keep up. Everything which is happening is just contrary to the fact.

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Religion spoils the real truth? What are your thoughts.

by punkofnice in

i can see how science is answering our questions.

okay, that's a sweeping statement, but it's the best way my empty head can express it.

i'm not sure if we're evolving as a species...that's another subject i admit to not reading about.

Beth Sarim

Questioning things is looked at as Apostasy. That is why the average Joe-JW is afraid to ask questions.

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Can you prove that WT policy of shunning is unscriptual? Will soon be discussing with somebody, give me all your ammo!

by EndofMysteries in

will soon be discussing w/ somebody still in about that.

i want to make sure i am not missing anything good.

so any scriptures, articles whether wt articles or secular about effects of shunning, etc, or your arguments against how wt interprets their scriptures, etc.

Beth Sarim

The fallacy of the shunning policy is no different than isolation and ostracism. In a way it is worse than isolation, it is public shaming which imposes much more guilt and shame on the supposed wrongdoer.

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What is the org’s view on extraterrestrial life?

by My Name is of No Consequence in

i am sure that it has been discussed before.

but just out of curiosity, what is the orgs view on extraterrestrial life?

the org certainly agrees that the universe is infinitely large.

Beth Sarim

I don't know how much of this is believable. But I'll throw it out there. NASA has photographs of the moon which they won't release. There is evidence of photos of the moon being somehow ''brushed-out'' to cover things up. That's just what I read somewhere, not sure how much is true, if true at all, but nonetheless, interesting.

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Hypocrisy of JW Thinking After Tragedy Like Paris

by freemindfade in

it never has ceased to boggle my mind how twisted up jw thinking is.

when they see something like what happened in paris, in person they will express how sad and detestable it is quickly followed by "this is why we need the kingdom, and the desert god is gonna fix everything.

" here is where i get perplexed.

Beth Sarim

Events such like what just transpired in Paris the other day, JW's hypocritically get into somewhat of a ''hype''. Or an increased level of enthusiasm, despite the loss of innocent lives and countless others who have been injured. Innocent ones who were blindsided by a terrorist act, the JW's seem to be in an enlightened frame of mind they almost seem ''celebratory like.''

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Are Jehovah’s Winesses “Fundamentalists” and “Fanatics”?

by EdenOne in

recently ive posted on fb a meme where a two pairs of hands held open a bible and the quram side by side.

then i wrote on it:.

(faith + fundamentalism) x (hate + propaganda) = legitimation of intolerance and violence.

Beth Sarim

Probably the preaching work, banning of Holidays, no association with non-Jw's, blood policy could all be categorized as fanatical and extremists of sorts.